RICHARD WOLFF: Welcome, friends, to another
edition of Economic Update, a weekly program devoted to the economic dimensions of our
lives. I’m your host Richard Wolff, and let’s get
right to the economic updates for today. I want to talk about the economic and sometimes
the political consequences of that historic government shutdown in December and January
just behind us. I think there were some things that happened
and lessons to be learned that are fundamental to that historic event and to the future of
the United States. I want to begin by pointing out that it revealed—that
shut down did—the gap between the people who “lead” the United States, both its
economy and its politics, and the actual condition of the mass of people. Nothing was as stark as that, in my mind. Let me just give you one example. The head of JPMorgan Chase—the country’s
largest bank, a man named Jamie Dimon—did an absolutely extraordinary thing midway through
the shutdown with great fanfare. In front of the assembled cameras he promised
one million dollars of his bank’s money to aid the furloughed workers. Well, I’m an economist and I took my little
pen and pencil and I figured out what one million dollars would do for the 800,000 workers
without pay. It would give each one of them one dollar
and 25 cents. In other words, here was a gesture that got
lots of free publicity for a big bank director, made it look like he gave a damn about what
was going on and would have meant to the 800,000 workers absolutely nothing. It wouldn’t have helped them buy a cup of
coffee. Here’s another lesson I learned: that there
are people in the labor movement who understood that that shutdown presented them with an
opportunity that was extraordinary. And even though they didn’t grasp it, many
of them, there were some who did and they deserve a recognition. And I was helped in this by Bob Henley, a
person who appears on this program often and who wrote a really good piece in Salon magazine
about it. The leader in question is Sara Nelson. She’s the president of the Association of
Flight Attendants, the folks who help you in the airplane when you take it. She got up in front of a meeting of the AFL-CIO
last January 20th, held in honor of Martin Luther King, speaking to union people about
what they shared with Martin Luther King and she said something very profound. We should have a general strike, she said. We should ask the working people of America
to go out in solidarity with the 800,000 members of our fellow working class to show our solidarity,
to express our outrage, that a dispute between two distant political party leaderships should
be worked out on the backs of a burden for a month of unpaid workers like ourselves. The unions didn’t follow up with her suggestion,
but her suggestion is very important. And as if to drive the point home, one more
lesson from the shutdown. There was enormous public support for those
workers suffering, through no fault of their own, not being paid for weeks on end. Lady Gaga interrupted a concert she was giving
in Las Vegas in order to talk about it and received an enormous ovation from an appreciative
crowd that understood. Why do I mention this? Because we missed—you, me, and all those
who understand—we missed a chance to mobilize an enormous public outcry. A movement, an American version of France’s
Yellow Vests, that could have been mobilized by the labor movement and by all the sympathizers
who would have poured into the streets to their anger, their dismay at imposing such
burdens on 800,000 people. It was a moment missed. But if we realize that, we won’t make that
mistake again. I want to talk next about a closely related
matter and that is how in our declining capitalism that we are now living through, there are
signs everywhere of change—just like that shutdown gave us signs of the sort I just
mentioned. The different set of signs, just as important,
includes action by school teachers. The strike that we talked about it an earlier
program of the Los Angeles teachers has now been won. And there are strikes planned or in the planning
process in Oakland, California and a particular one that interests me in Denver, Colorado. It’s spreading and that’s very important. Teachers are learning from the pioneering
efforts of the teachers in West Virginia, whose representatives we had on this program
some months ago, and the others in Arkansas, in Kentucky, in states—six or seven of them—that
were big victory states for Donald Trump. The public school teacher said no more cutting
public services, no more paying us less money than a person gets who parks cars in a movie
theater lot. Give us the recognition of the importance
of what we do—which is not to say that parking cars is not important, but that training the
children of our society is extremely important. Recognize that, support that. Those teachers took real risks and they discovered
in all those red states enormous public support, which is what the Los Angeles teachers discovered
and what is being discovered right now by the teachers in Denver. So this is an important lesson—the wind
shifting. There’s a kind of waking up, as if from a
long slumber, of public employees in this society. And the teachers are taking a leading position,
which has happened before in history and is very important, because the teachers who are
active are already models for their students and the lesson will not be lost and the long-term
effects are profound. There was even another dimension of the struggle
between the teachers and the city in Denver that is also a lesson to be learned. In Denver, the school board threatened the
union—that if they went on strike the city would report the immigrant teachers to the
immigration authorities. This was obviously done to intimidate, to
scare, to split the teachers between those born in the United States and those with one
or another immigrant status. Here’s an important lesson, actually two lessons
here. Number one, it should remind you that employers
are the ones who are very interested in immigrants. They’re interested because they can often
get the immigrant to work at a lower wage or salary than a native-born person, but that’s
not all. They’re also interested in the immigrant because
they have a hold on the immigrant, they can intimidate and scare the immigrant, just like
the authorities in Denver did, and split them away from other workers and use them against
the other workers. That’s why the second important lesson is
not only to understand how immigrants are used and who’s responsible, but to understand
that solidarity between immigrant workers and native-born American workers is very important
for both of them. It is very important. And don’t lose sight of the following fact
as well: threatening an immigrant in this case is threatening a person, an immigrant,
who’s teaching children. Not Mr. Trump’s image of an immigrant who’s
got a crime problem or a drug problem or a disease problem—that’s a hustle, that’s
a fakery. We’re talking here about threatening a teacher
who has given himself or herself the enormously important task of educating the next generation
of our fellow citizens. That’s who’s being hurt by the scapegoating
of immigrants, who are not the cause and not the solution to the problems of a capitalism
in decline. I want finally to mention briefly that an
extraordinary event happened that I think also needs a moment’s commentary. Elizabeth Warren, a candidate for president,
has been going after a fellow named Tim Sloan, who’s the CEO of the Wells Fargo Bank. She believes that the bank, having been caught
doing literally every unethical and many illegal activities over the last several years—really,
even beyond what the other big banks did, which is saying a lot—that he wanted to
be the head of a big bank. He has shown that he’s not the one you want
in such a powerful position. And while I understand her anger and I agree
with her impulse, I must say I regret that she doesn’t take it further. If you got rid of Mr. Sloan, but left in place
all of the system that Mr. Sloan works in, whoever replaces Mr. Sloan will face the same
set of inducements, the same set of rewards, the same set of risks that he did. And to expect a different outcome, to expect
that the next one will not behave like all of the others did, strikes me as strange. Whatever you do to the people in charge now,
if you don’t change the system replacing them with other people will not solve the problem. It never has. Well, we’ve come to the end of the first half
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right around the corner. RICHARD WOLFF: Welcome back, friends, to the
second half of Economic Update. For this show, I’m very happy to welcome
to the microphones here Julianna Forlano. Some of you will remember that she’s been
on the program before, but I want to briefly introduce her once again. She is now the host of Waking Up with Julianna. It’s a program on WBAI 99.5 FM in New York
City, every weekday morning at 7 o’clock. There she is, bringing people on with telephone
calls, bringing guests on. It’s a remarkable program and I recommend
it to you if you’re in the Greater New York area. She’s also a senior correspondent for,
covering protests and political activism for that station. Julianna also writes and performs live and
multimedia, political and socially conscious comedy. You can follow her on Twitter at juliannaforlano—that’s
with two N’s, all one word. Welcome to the program. JULIANNA FORLANO: Thanks so much for having
me on. WOLFF: Well, as I’ve told you and as I want
my audience to know, I am really interested in exploring not just big formal questions
of economics, but all the things that make an economy work—or not work—that people
don’t talk about, although they should. And the one I want you to talk about are the
problems that beset working mothers. Our society more and more demands that mothers
work, that they don’t stay in the home, that they add a whole set of responsibilities outside
the home, usually adding them to the already long list of responsibilities inside—all
the more, if they have children. And the tensions and problems of that shaped
their lives, shape the economy, and that has to be talked about more than anything. So I want to open it up by asking you, what
are the problems of what in Europe is called work-life balance. You know, how do you balance the competing
demands on you. FORLANO: Well first of all, thank you very
much for having me on the show and I hope can do justice to the working moms’ plight
these days. And thanks for even bringing this topic up
as something that’s important to talk about. I don’t hear about it enough and every time
I do hear about it, I—it helps to have this conversation, because it’s so secretive and
then moms, we feel guilty about everything. It just comes along, it’s like you suddenly—you
give birth and also guilt comes out. And we’re always wondering, am I doing something
wrong? Is this OK with my child? Am I doing the best I can? So there’s always that guilt. And I think it’s really important to recognize
what pressures the system is putting on and, you know, if we’re falling short as a parent
or if we’re not, how much of that is on my plate or how much of that is contingent
upon society. And when you were doing the introduction question,
you reminded me of my parents’ work-life balance. My mother and father both worked, because
they needed to do that in order to support the family. And my father had a heart attack early and
then was unable to work. So my mother was supporting our family from
the time I was maybe 12 years old until he died and the rest of the time. So, working as a woman has always been something
that’s been on my agenda. WOLFF: Something you saw in your mother every
day. FORLANO: Exactly. And I saw, oh—you can be a mom and you can
be a worker, but it wasn’t until I had my own children that I could see that the stresses
that she was under, how they flowed back onto me. And now I’m a working mom and now those
same stresses flow onto my children and it’s really hard to see that. WOLFF: You know, in our society it’s still
the case, right, that somehow without it ever being said, the woman has the major responsibility
for the child or the children, which means that even if you’re both husband and wife—or
partners—are both working outside, and maybe let’s say equivalently, it’s not equivalent
when you come home. So that, you know, the extra work that the
female of the species is asked to do puts all kinds—I would assume—puts all kinds
of strains. You hear women talking about the anxiety they
feel relative to the child, if they’re busy working, and you hear that a lot more in my
experience then you hear a man doing it. So I kind of wanted to pull out from you some
sense of your feelings about whether men and women are managing these conflicting tendencies. FORLANO: No, it’s absolutely different. I mean, I can’t speak for every group obviously,
there’s gonna be— WOLFF: No, of course. FORLANO: But I think that women have the emotional
burden of being that emotional connection in that special way that is a to the child,
and that burden continues around the clock—you don’t go to work and leave it at home. It’s with you all the time. And it’s not a burden, I mean, that’s
a terrible word. Like, ah! it’s killing me. But, you know, it’s there, and it changes
you as a human being. WOLFF: Your baby is how old? FORLANO: She’s two and a half. WOLFF: Two and a half. FORLANO: She’s in what the Norwegians, I
think, call the testing phase—they call it the terrible twos here—the boundary-pushing
phase. But, you know, my husband is very helpful
around the house. He doesn’t have sort of an old-time idea
of division of labor. He cooks, he cleans, he does the cat box,
I mean—God bless him. And so—but still, there’s this division
of labor that he cannot do, because he’s the father and I’m the mother. So that labor is always with me. I don’t know if that makes sense, but I’ve
always felt that way. Also, you know, it’s not like he’s gonna
breast-feed. He would, my husband, if he could have—but
he couldn’t do that. So there’s this connection that’s just
something that’s innate to it and you don’t get to leave it at home. WOLFF: How does it—can you tell us a little
more how it affects you. I mean… FORLANO: Yeah… WOLFF: That you take it with you to your job… Impacts your work life how? Sort of wondering… FORLANO: I don’t want to do a disservice
to women who are mothers in the workplace. WOLFF: For sure. FORLANO: I think it actually expands us as
people, and I think to create the opportunity for further compassion, you know, could make
a workplace actually far for wonderful then… It doesn’t necessarily have to be a drag. But when I walk out of the door, I feel bad. I feel bad and I’m lucky, because I have
two part-time jobs that allow me to be home two full days out of the week and then on
the weekend. And it’s not always like that, because as
it turns out activists tend to protest on the weekend. So I often get a lot of weekend work, because
that’s what I cover on my other job. But, you know, a lot of my friends had to
make a choice: either lose half of the family’s income or not see their kids for 40 to 60
hours a week and basically have someone else—a whole other economy of nannies, of daycares,
whatever the case may be—raising their children. This is another problem that comes down to
economics. I moved out of Syracuse, New York because
the job economy in Syracuse, New York is pretty abysmal especially for journalists. I think there’s like three up there and
that’s it. So moving to another place, now I’m far
away family—don’t see them as often. There’s no one to call for help, basically,
that you don’t pay, who’s not just hopefully a friendly neighbor or something like that. But it’s not the same and that is driven
by economics. I mean, you know that whole Upstate New York
area was just destroyed by NAFTA. WOLFF: Still is. FORLANO: I think that really affects the children,
too. They don’t have access to their grandparents
as if they were another parent or an aunt, as if it was an additional person… WOLFF: Who lived around the corner, or— FORLANO: Exactly. WOLFF: Or elsewhere in the building. FORLANO: I do have some family members in
Queens and we go there quite a bit, and you know in Brooklyn people… There is still the opportunity, in some ethnic
enclaves, to all live on the same street or have multi-family home or something, where
you can do that. But it’s really rare and far between and
there’s an emotional toll on me, because I was brought up with Nonna ten minutes down
the street. Grandma half an hour away. Uncles, aunts, cousins all around—not right
in the house, we lived in like the suburbs, but not far away. And here we don’t have that and that increases
tension level for a mother, because I think mothers want to know that their kids are gonna
be safe and protected and enveloped in love beyond what the mother can give. And, you know… WOLFF: You said something interesting to me
before we went on the cameras and on the radio—part of the program—about part-time work. This society leaves that up to companies to
decide whether its profitable or not, but if I hear you correctly there ought to be
a consideration about part and full-time to accommodate the conditions of working mothers,
to create opportunities and flexibilities that would make your life much, much easier. FORLANO: Absolutely. Right up until last week I had three part-time
jobs. I had to make a choice: go insane, with three
part-time jobs, and then—you know, when you’re exhausted you can’t be a good mom;
the kid picks up the stress—or, you know, choose to let go of a significant amount of
income in order to be present and be physically able to be present, you know, sleep deprivation
comes with the job of motherhood and then you gotta go to work and perform. You know, it’s a stress. And making that choice, you know, you just
don’t know what’s right. WOLFF: What did you do with your three jobs? FORLANO: One I was an adjunct professor teaching
media studies. I’m the host of a WBAI show and I cover—this
is the hardest one, because I cover activist action, which isn’t a regular job. It’s like, when it pops up you run for it. And because it’s irregular, you don’t
know how much you’re going to make in a month. This month could be a lot, this month could
be very little and so economic instability and insecurity is part and parcel of that. I have the other job that kind of brings in
the baseline check, but economic insecurity—because, I mean, how good of a mother can you be when
you’re terrified that you can’t feed the kids or bring in the diapers or even if you’re
a middle-class mom, there’s still economic insecurity, because the minute the kid is
born you’re saving for Harvard or SUNY or whatever college you’re gonna try. You want the best for them. And people in my situation, I still carry
a debt burden that is almost six figures from my own university education. WOLFF: And you’re worrying about the next
generation. FORLANO: Exactly. Free college education would bring that stress
level down. Free healthcare would bring that stress level
down. Not having to worry about—I mean, part-time
jobs don’t usually give healthcare. I work for a liberal, you know, news organization… WOLFF: In Europe it’s a standard thing. You give everybody healthcare. It doesn’t matter whether they have a job,
don’t have a job, whether they have a part-time, a full-time—you separate the healthcare,
as a human need, from the conditions of the economy’s bouncing up and down, and that
strikes everybody there as the normal, natural, humane thing to do. Americans find it amazing. FORLANO: It’s a very strange thing we live
under here, where you have to earn your right to be care for. WOLFF: It’s also an economy that makes things
work for profit. It’s the profit-making employer who decides
part-time or full-time. The idea that you ought to arrange work-times
to accommodate something as fundamental as bringing the next generation into the world
doesn’t seem to compute. FORLANO: Corporations, if they’re not gonna
get your own kid to work for that corporation, what do they care? They don’t care about your kid. I’m sorry, I don’t see that very… WOLFF: So, because we’re running out of
time, I wanted to make sure—because it goes so fast—gives us a sense of your wishes. Let your mind go. What would you like to think of a better economic
system would be able to offer women, particular mothers—particularly mothers who work. FORLANO: As I’ve said before, particularly
free education and a quality education, a supported public education. The mothers I know in New York City are scrambling
to figure out how to educate their children, because the public schools have been undermined. So that’s a whole other issue. But a quality, free education and free college
education and free healthcare. But also, how about paid maternity leave for
more than six weeks? How about—six weeks, six weeks! You barely, like, you know… WOLFF: But you know, we’ve done programs—we’re
the only advanced industrial country, the United States, that gives no guaranteed, legally-required,
paid maternal and paternal leave. It’s unbelievable. There are countries out there, much less rich
than we, who give a year or who give six months or who give it to both parents, etc., etc. It’s an extraordinary willingness of the
American people to forego something which obviously families and working mothers needs,
but everybody needs. FORLANO: The child needs to be with the parents
and especially in those very young times. It’s just inhumane and I think it puts specific
burden on the mother, that you should be emotionally and physically ready to go back to work in
six weeks or some people have a couple of moths—that’s not enough either. And there’s an enormous emotional toll. The first time I dropped my daughter off with
a different caregiver, I started crying and I took a YouTube—I took a video, I didn’t
post it. But I took a video of it, because it just
struck me as this is what all moms do. The first time you have to drop off your child,
away from you, is incredibly difficult. And it becomes less difficult, but it’s
still hard every day. And that emotional toll is going to spill
over onto your work, I’m sorry. We’re not compartmentalized as human beings. And the treatment of workers all sectors as
cogs and not human, it’s not very productive, first of all—it’s counterproductive to
getting the work done that you want done. WOLFF: Really, it’s the old question that
we deal with on this program all the time: is the economy there to serve what people
need or are people there to serve what the employer needs? I mean, sooner or later you have to make that
choice. And I think you’ve been very eloquent about
making clear the costs of not organizing the economy around the needs of working mothers
as a basic part of our population. FORLANO: I know we’re out of time, but the
mental heath care and the mental stress of it and the emotional part—it needs to be
considered. WOLFF: Thank you very much, Julianna. FORLANO: Thank you so much. WOLFF: Thank you all for watching. I want to remind you all, please support us
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97 thoughts on “Economic Update: Economics of Conflicted Mothers”

  1. Thank you for your work. 🙏
    If I weren't technically homeless and broke, I'd contribute because viewer-funded news and analysis is necessary for a functioning society.

  2. Great show and topic and also the same for your special guest too! It is hard to juggle both job and kids at the same time, and many kids take it for granted when their parent struggle just to put food on the table and so on!

  3. We the people of these divided united States are treated as immigrants by the businesses government. In our society, we get crumbs for our part of making the richer richer. This is slavery in disguise. We need to get wise and demand a change.

  4. Children are the most precious and important thing there is for humankind. Shocking to hear how badly parents and so also the children are treated in the US economy. My respect for you dr.Wolff, only increases as words come out of your mouth👍

  5. I was a member of the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers and was shocked that we did not all walk out when the air traffic controllers were fired and replaced! Sadly, unions have danced to the tune of capitalism. The role of religion in capitalism as well, that can be seen in the movie "The Molly Maguires" after the soccer game, who rides off with the boss. Having workers chained to employers for their healthcare and vacations keeps them from changing jobs even though they are very dissatisfied in their work. Julianna Forlano makes excellent points! I am 65 years old and witnessed the end of the small farms and people with gardens and canning their own food. Capitalism ended that way of life, and now our food is toxic. Thank you for the excellent program!

  6. Ms. Forlano's commentary about extended family in child-rearing is a poignant one. The economic insecurity (wage slavery) perpetrated by this insane economy has destroyed this aspect of life in the US, which in previous generations used to be an extremely important one. In that context, Sen. Warren's call to replace one plutocrat (Sloan) characterizes her approach, that is, not radical change, but rather window-dressing. Her candidacy in not the answer.

  7. The article "The single most important pro-labor speech of the shutdown was not given by AOC" by Bob Sennelly

  8. Is the American Working-class supposed to view Lady Gaga as some kind of role model all of a sudden? That person is just another puppet of the degenerate elite. Who cares if her dumbed down audience cheered. They are a bunch of brainwashed and mindless followers.

  9. If banker jerk wanted to be a real hero; any of those govt workers that had a loan or mortgage with JP Morgan, could have suspended payments and accrued interests until they were being paid again. Try setting the decency bar higher for once your life.

  10. It should be mentioned, the Democrats agreed to allocate $1.375 billion as a stopgap measure to prevent a shutdown. The Democrats knew that a shutdown would result in the air traffic controllers and other workers striking. So instead of opposing Trump by setting the conditions which could ultimately strengthen workers rights, the Democrats capitulated to Trump and laid the groundwork for fascism.

  11. You should join us sometime in the first world America. Does it not get old swinging pitchforks at ever increasingly poorer people while the rich laugh at you's? I never underestimate an Americans ability to hate, I just hope you's get sick of it before the rich steal too much and you's are left with picking up the pieces….. again!

  12. I don't agree with this woman's assertions. She feels that because women breast feed that somehow that makes them more in line with the children. Wrong. Studies have shown that it's not the breast feeding, it is the holding, the cuddling, the emotional exchange with the parent that counts. Thus, men are just as capable of providing the emotional support and connection as mothers. What everyone is skirting is that men don't want to be cast in this role. Male children are given trucks and toy guns and are thus programmed for their expected role. The video games are full of violence as are most of the movies of today. My brother wanted a doll and got one from my mother for Christmas; my father was flipping out. (This wasn't acceptable "male behavior".) I took an interest in car engines and what makes them run; and my father was flipping out. This wasn't "girl behavior". The problems come when we have males that are programmed for war but are then placed inside marriages as fathers. They don't know how to cope with the dichotomy (and frankly, I don't blame them.) They are the victims of mixed messaging. Also, because men are brought up to be "the head of the household" and to "act like a man", men believe they are kings in waiting and this is how they act once married: "king of the castle". Men don't marry to do housework or rear children. It isn't "men's stuff". Men are raised to be fodder in the never-ending wars of our sick and corrupted imperialistic political system. Any man showing loving feelings over warrior posturing is labeled a "woos", a "pansy", a "fag", and is looked down upon by other males as weak and unreliable. Thus egged on by peer pressure, men marry for services. Women are 2nd, 3rd, and 4th class citizens. The average male marries to get his house cleaned, his meals cooked, his laundry washed, and sex on demand. He absolutely doesn't marry to be an equal with a woman! When the marriage vows were/are spoken, the minister says, "I now pronounce you man and wife." Not man and woman, not husband and wife. He is clearly the man, and she has now become his property; his 'housewife". She has just married his house and as such has no authority whatsoever. I can't tell you how many old films I've watched where she says something about "my house" and gets corrected by the husband that it is HIS house and she is being allowed to live (and work) in it as long as she pleases him. I've also seen way too many films where the husband gives the wife a good crack in the face sending her to the floor, (often times bloody) just to underscore who is the real boss in things. After all, it is his job to "control his woman." As long as we as people are having our male children defined by war, warrior posturing, and war faring, there are going to be problems in marriages. Women now want to go out to work and to define and determine their own lives free of male dictates. In my parents' marriage, my mother turned over her paychecks to may father. When my father died, my brother fully expected both my mother and myself to turn over our paychecks to him. So, it's not about breasts. It's about the way we are running our society and the programming we are instilling in our male children. We need to stop giving them toys that imply "rough and tough". I'm for giving books, fountain pens and paper, musical instruments, chess and checkers sets, and anything that doesn't lead to rough and tough. If we program our male children for rough and tough then we shouldn't be surprised if that's what we get as the adults of this zeitgeist.

  13. If you haven't noticed, between climate change, nearly inevitable nuclear war, species extinction, toxic food, pollution, etc. we are litterally watching the final days of humanity unfold before our eyes.
    In this light, perhaps it is the child that is left unborn that is the lucky one. Every generation now will most likely have worse and worse lives. People that have children now, like it or not, should feel the guilt of bringing a life into the mess of these end days.

  14. Instead what we're told by the libertardarian brainwashed idiots is: "Don't have a cell phone! Quit buying coffee! Cancel your cable! Buy $25 dollars worth of stocks every month and not only will you be middle class in no time, you'll retire a millionaire! Now shut the fuck up you lazy, greedy ass, and quit victimizing me because I'm successful! MAGA!" Twitter is INFESTED with these asswipes.

  15. So why cant we pay women a wage to stay home and raise their children from birth to school age for 2 children. We pay old folks why not those raising our future citizens?

  16. If we provide a free college education and health care to all, how will be able to give 100% income tax deductions for private jets? You working and middle-class people are greedy pigs!

  17. The comment that Mrs. Forlano made, with regard to the current system requiring workers to "earn being cared for," is one of the most obvious yet elusive concepts for people to grasp, or that has simply been overlooked for decades upon decades. The buck stopped with my generation, and the "millennials" are carrying it forward, through to today's youngest workforce, backed by the former, above-mentioned generation (mine) 1980s' graduates. A couple more election cycles (yes, unfortunately), and the country as we know it (U.S.), will begin to walk the talk of the last 50+ years. The United States didn't earn it's touted description as the "greatest country on the planet" by way of merit–it was simply "taken;" not "by the people," but by capitalistic values and corporate greed. Our example has not been one to exemplify, now that the dust is slowly and finally settling. "All filters off" is not a pleasant thing to witness, but a crucially necessary one. Thank you both, Professor Wolff and Mrs. Forlano. Great way to spend the first 30 minutes of my day. –An Educated and (partially insured) Mom in the U.S. 😉

  18. Back in 2012 I researched Visa workers on 2 Visa websites. The Fort Worth Texas ISD hired hundreds of teachers from Mexico. Some with green cards most with visas. And this is only on those reported. The websites informed the public that not all employers report all of them. So I followed the school districts use of these teachers from Mexico for the next 2 years. It lowered teachers yearly salaries by 10 thousand dollars. That is a huge cut to teacher pay! After the recession Texas laid off 1000's of teachers and many were never brought back. And there was Fort Worth bringing in teachers from Mexico instead of bringing back the laid off American teachers.

  19. The US workers haven't lost enough yet, they still think they can persevere, just work a little more.
    This can't be happening to me.
    I'm still middle class.
    The news says it's all ok. it's those lazy people that are homeless, it's the immigrants and welfare queens that are the problem.
    They will only wake up when they have no job and no money.

  20. How about some thoughts on Virginia blackface and Liam Neeson? Personal view: Liam deserves a medal, and the Virginia Governor has apologized. I have a picture of My sister, married to an African and with two kids of mixed race in blackface when she was in her early twenties. Times have changed. Another time she dressed up as a victim of rape?? Times have changed.

  21. Hi Richard! Regain your comment on banking, a suggestion that you read a little about Australia and the royal commission into banking practice. A royal commission is able to subpoena its investigation targets to make a determination of whether criminal charges are to be laid. It revealed quite a few cases where capitalism and greed sets up finance practices to rip people off. I don’t know the American equivalent, but it would be very interesting to hear your opinions.

  22. Seriously????? The revolution you are looking for is going to "arise" from the "workers" in
    GOVERNMENT being betrayed by that government, and reacting because THEY will suffer
    from the actions of the very same government, that they are "part of", and act in
    conjunction with, EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR!!!!!!!???????????

  23. If you can’t afford children, don’t have them. I made that decision. Also, it’s unethical to add to overpopulation to our polluted planet.

  24. It is only wealthy women who have the luxury of even thinking about work life balance. Caring for children is not a burden, providing for them financially is. Women who can't or won't share this burden are parasites.

  25. Teaching children IS a crime to Republicans, that's the part Richard misses. They want to home-school their kids into conspiracy theories, evangelical Christianity…and military so they can unconsciously rid themselves of them altogether.

  26. Professor, what do you think about Andrew Yang's 2020 presidential candidacy and his Universal Basic Income plan or other proposed policies?

  27. Progressists, feminism try to destroy family value for more than 50 years, in a economy just driven by more money and profits. Now everybody struggle to be happy in a non social world. Who s fault.

  28. We Americans have been socialized to believe in bullshit!! It’s utterly ridiculous that we don’t offer free college, free healthcare, and paid maternity or paternity leave! It truly proves that propaganda is powerful! Most Americans accept these horrible things and will die fighting for them to exist!! SMH!!

  29. Thanks very much for presenting the eloquent, authentic warrior-mother Julianna Forlano – but you don’t go far enough, Julianna, nor does Richard. We have technological cornucopia – it offers a much more generous vision.

    Mothers need to be supplied generously to perform motherhood for exactly as long as they want it. If there is a strong bond, especially with babies and toddlers, most mothers would rather be with their child than at any other job. I personally have long ago dropped the casual way even compassionate thinkers like Dr. Wolff, use the word “working” to describe the unfortunate need to sell her labor, but not to describe her actual work, the most important job on the planet. The meme of “work” vs mothering (or parenting) is a slap in the face to all parents who want to be the best they can be at that great art.

    Motherhood is already a full-time job – one with each child. As a society, we need to generously provide for them, especially to maximize time and energy. It is the archetypal job of love, is it not?

    We don’t need “one year or six month” parental leave. We actually need, and can easily afford, a guaranteed livable basic income that covers the essentials at a high living standard – so that if she, along with the majority, wants to do the most important job on earth full-time, they can. And if they want to play in the labor market, they can – but with survival assured. The labor market must be an option to a fully-supplied parent – not an anxious, guilt-riddled existential necessity, which deprives and poisons all: mother, child, and father. And produces the toxic society that has grown around us.

  30. Please remember that most management is not primarily motivated by the profitability of the company but by their personal ability to exercise power and accumulate wealth. Power will win over wealth in most decision making. This will help you understand why corrupt systems are put in place.

  31. Greetings from Russia. My cousin got almost 7 years of maternal vacation. She got 3 years for rehabilitation after each child birth(first child in 2003 and twins in 2007). She raised her 3 daughters untill the twins started to attend kindergarden. Now she back to work. Is it possible in the US?
    Of course we want to be like the wealthiest country in the world, and reducing such kind of social programs. Many of kindergarden were closed, many of school were closed, many of universities were closed. And it seems that everyone cares about TrumPutinMerkelMayMacron theatre.

  32. What exactly would they have reported them for? Striking? Unless they're admitting that they purposely and knowingly hired undocumented immigrants as teachers… And considering they seemed to think it would cause enough of a break between workers, it makes me wonder just how many undocumented teachers there are in the Denver school system.

  33. All of these protests and strikes yet no one is marching for socialism. Why not demand the ownership and control of the means of production and the abolition of billionaires?

  34. One of the few issues i have with warren, besides her foreign policy, is her approach to capitalism. She's one of the people that thinks we can have clean capitalism, and she doesn't want to address fundamental problems within this system. This is why I prefer Bernie, but I'd still dance in the street if warren were elected president of course.

  35. It's tough on 1st World petty bourgeois working career mothers(sigh). In other news, Yemenese mothers have to watch their children stsrve to death…

  36. Welcome to the club, my fellow American sisters! Finally, it's your turn of experiencing that much levels of social engineering. It's already been practiced way back in China during the Maoist socialism. At the time China's population is dominantly peasants. And the communist regime's industrialization needs more labors to produce agrarian goods in exchange for foreign currency incomes to buy technology. By tradition, women are not supposed to work in the paddy field rather staying at home nursing children. Mao sees that is a wasting of half population of labor. Therefore launched a campaign under the name of "liberating women". Hence the term "half the sky" was given by Mao and became the synonym of females in China. So the ultra-right is learning from ultra-left's practice now.

  37. Male. Stay at home dad atm.
    100% amazing talk. Childcare is impossibly hard and women have gotten the short end of the stick on raising society up from birth….and females do the birthing.

  38. Please, stop with stereotypes! My son was raised to be a good parent & most young couples I know do share the responsibility of parenting. Men are not neanderthals anymore. My neice has ideal, p/t with on-site daycare on corporate campus & breaks to breastfeed her babies. I do not care for this woman

  39. Agree 100%! I would have march! Do not mind when it is recognized that both parties boobooe it! We do not have a truly Independent Labor Movement. We are EMERGED WITH THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY! It is Sad! Disgusting! They are legally here! They donot hire you, if you do not have Permanent Staus Visa or a Special Visa to be working in this country! Incredible!

  40. Americans need to Understand that they have to get UP and GO. You have to do this and go on Strike,
    not only you owe it for you ,also for your children, otherwise if you nood the head to every nonsense ,
    you will continue belonging to the loosing middle class. You get robed from the big Corporations.
    Going on Strike will Amerika really big again you need to change the game to your advantage.
    This is what makes a country great. Internet is a super tool to organize don't need a Union.
    Chris Schmidt

  41. I have friend from SERBIA, one of the poorest countries in Europe. Her sister who is a teacher got 1 YEAR of paid maternity leave after each of her 3 children.

  42. Thank you EU for discussing this issue. I call it, Conflicted mother syndrome, which I suffer from. Our society does not value parent/child relationships anymore. Great question, does the employee exist for the employer or visa versa. This show is therapy for me. No one else wants to acknowledge these issues in our 'business first, community never' themed society.

  43. Senator Warren and others like her, make comments that on the surface sound good, and only attack when they know it is safe politically. She knows what to say to the uninformed for her supporters and those who think that she will destroy the country even though she will continue to prop up the status quo. Who was it that said that if voting changed anything, they would get rid of it?

  44. For crying out loud, Dr. Wolff. In Europe they can strike to their heart's content and then go back to work. There you can only be fired for work related offenses. No At Will Employment! What do you think would happen to a worker in the South caught participating in a strike which threatens the current status quo. The South with its chronic shortage of good jobs. Fired the next day. Then try to get decent employment elsewhere, impossible, You will be labeled a troublemaker.The US is one of only a handful of countries still upholding an old 1898 law called At Will Employment – translated it means your employer has the right to terminate your employment for or without cause. This is the reason why we have so fewer strikes than Europe. Until we get rid off At Will Employment there is little chance for a Yellow Vest movement in the States.

  45. propose to disallow the rich from begging constantly on tv/internet by the barrage of advertising, mixing with entertainment, enrichment, education and edification. thanks

  46. we don't even give workers break-laws for them specifically, without relying on the largesse of super profit corporations. real emergency alert; continental Europe can be a model of medicine for us but we ignore them and deride them; in the meantime usa has luxury medicine for the rich.

  47. Nice of Mr. Wolf to present this topic. I tend to think a far more narrow wage range would solve so many of these problems. If the lowest wage were $20 per hour (could it be any less?), then the highest should not exceed $120. A one to six ratio of pay would solve so many of our social troubles in my opinion.

  48. General strike would be great. we need one so everyone knows we can do it. yellow vests on, and the whole economy sits for a day.

  49. Mexican strikers in Matamoros are asking for American and Canadian worker solidarity. You're all in this together. Their unions are just even worse than yours, and of course the oligarchs are exactly the same 'people'. Has Dr. Wolff been onto this? Seems right up his alley.

  50. There needs to be a norming of the priorities of the family as a team. Men and women may not be willing to assume the same prioritization in the domestic team if or when they value recognition in external work or social groups/teams. To assume that any team member will adopt a priority structure while having different rewards structure is arrogant. Children involve a change in team goals that need to be negotiated.

  51. Purchase Prof. Wolff's latest book, Understanding Marxism:

  52. Yes, the 'yellow vests' and 'Generalstreik' immediately come to mind – maybe we should realize from time to time, that Germany will pay 145 out of his 365 Billion € federal budget to 'Arbeit und Soziales' – 'to smoosen transitions for working people in the capitalistc world' – and this percentage is constant now for fifteen to twenty years. No change by Merkel's conservatives.

    And the German people think 'it's okay: we make a GDP of 3600 Billion €'s per annum, so this is roughly just 4%. And quite ok 'as an accompanying measure'.'

  53. Here in Britain we have a health service and used to have a decent education system. Unfortunately our government seems to want to have your systems, Brexit will only make this worse. There is already talk of trade deals with the US which will let your insurance companies take over the NHS and as you can imagine that will be a disaster. They have already had a toxic influence on how ill and disabled people are assessed for their benefits (welfare) resulting in, in some estimates, two hundred thousand extra deaths in the last five or so years. Our education system is now sliding towards your system, with academies getting the lions share of funding (and lower standards but higher pay for the principals) leaving the rest to underfunded and going to ruin.

  54. What a fantastic trick is was to turn our slaves' wives into slaves.
    Who gives a damn about children?
    It takes a village to raise a child – and all the villages in USA were smashed to bits years ago – on the altar of "economics".
    It churns my stomach to see a mother abandon her children and argue for "work/slavery".. bad enough the father?
    And where did the village go!!???
    Systemic change?
    You have barely begun.
    You look like a bunch of apologists for your parasites.

  55. she said "you have to earn your right to be cared for" (no universal healthcare in usa). In our societies, the moment you are born you are on trial and not always included (depending on your purchasing power); when you're born, the society should welcome you, you're included and we will take care of you.
    she said basically "she doesn't live near family", which, i guess is horrible. In general, how about a society where we were producing humans we want to be around (all people need the same things; there are no strangers)
    never understood why you have to go out and work why someone else looks after your kids (paid nannies); you could be at home with your kid instead

  56. I experienced the same guilt and anxiety Ms. Forlano.. Leaving a baby with a daycare provider. Even when they were toddlers it was hard. It shouldn't be this way. It has become this way due to greed of corporations – employers, utilities, real estate prices have risen as a result of people with additional income (working mothers) bidding up higher until you can't get a mortgage with a single income.
    Mother's should be able to be at home to care for their children at a young age – maybe only having to work part time while kids are in school.

  57. As long as we value people primarily for their monetary contributions to our society we will not have gender equality. Historically he bulk of "women's work" has been unpaid and yet is essential to the well being of society. Care of children, the elderly, and ill in the family, building and organizing community, providing emotional support and a safe and healthy environment for intellectual and spiritual growth, not to mention the practical day to day tasks that has primarily been provided by women throughout history. Until we are able to recognize the importance of what has been classically feminine territory it will be a struggle to get men to actively participate in the unpaid work of home life.

  58. I feel everything Giuliana, I am a mum and I had to stop working because I couldn't take the pressure of having to work as a software developer and taking care of a child. I felt the stress passing through to my daughter, so I decided to stop working and take care of her until she is more independent.

  59. This legend of the mother having a more special bond with children. All my friends who are father and me feel the same as this woman is describing.

  60. During OWS (remember; people camping out in public spaces within major cities all over the country) there was a turning point. It was winter, and a storm surged through the snow swept streets of Manhattan…it was planned, and it was executed by Obama, Eric Holder and others who made a choice NOT to support you.

    We don't need to position ourselves to be maced and beaten again…we just need to quit! We strike. – – – but this time there is nothing to break up. No movement, no sit in. Just millions of people who refuse to work. – We're closer than you think.

  61. Warren always falls short of pressing for or demanding actual change. This is why I cannot support her in her run for the presidency. I'm hoping Sanders chooses a progressive female as his running mate early on, which would be a strong step in paving the way for a female president. As an independent, Sanders would be the only way I vote democrat.

  62. I don't agree with something in the video. Here's what I mean. I completely understand that it is a fact that women have — and that's really unfortunate — more responsibilities than men in the household. Indeed, it would be delusional for a woman to think that when she'll get married, chores between her husband and her would automatically be shared 50-50. But here's where I disagree. He is YOUR husband. If women can do what men had so far mistakenly believed only they could, you best believe the opposite can also be true. We can wash the dishes, we can mop the floor, heck we can even change diapers. (OMGs keep that away from me…) The only thing we can't do is breastfeeding. To me it ultimately comes down to this: your man, your choice, your couple.
    Long story short, if you can tell your man when and when not the two of you can have sex together, you best believe you can also have him wash the dishes. He is YOUR man, he is YOURS to command.

  63. i agree with sarah nelson…it's time for a general strike. it is not a coincidence that any talk of solidarity is not covered in the MSM. the history of the CIO being what it is, it is not surprising that they didn't follow up on the talk of a general strike. they have been selling workers out since their inception.

  64. Disgusting socialists !!! Nothing is free !!! Socialismus eats all previously earned capital and if not stopped by revolution it goes further into debt like China and now the whole world !!! Socialists have to have way to spend what they did not make – now it is fiat money !!! Fuck them all !!!

  65. What kinda oppertunities capitalism presents in bringing about the change in society against hardships?

    Oppertunities for strikes because of not being paid for weeks and months must not be missed despite little gifts and bribes presented in favour of not to. Conspiracies will be there to split you but unity is the key. Lessons are, specially to understands the immigrants that he or she happens to be teaching your children and do not seperate them from yourself. Labour class is not different. They are equal.

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